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and like we were saying backstage, if it wasn't for the 22nd amendment is it that bill clinton would be president again because he obviously knows what he's talking about and people feel confident with him. but i do believe in barack obama. i do believe his message. i haven't lost faith in him. and i think that, you know -- it's not an easy thing to do. nobody knows what the hell they're getting into when they're running for president. you don't know what job you're getting into hosting a show like this. we're not having a huge impact. i mean, you are, i guess. >> you have a huge impact. >> i have a huge impact with young girls, young women. that's my demographic. >> and young men. >> older men especially. oerl men like me. you can vouch for that. >> oh, you enjoyed that one, didn't you? >> yes, i did! >> kelsey grammer was on the show the other day and he bailed -- >> oh, my gosh, i'm dying to know what happened. >> i'll tell you what happened. he was out there and i was given a set of questions and i researched it he was quite happy to talk about his ex-wife camille. then he was in
and like we were saying backstage, if it wasn't for the 22nd amendment is it that bill clinton would be president again because he obviously knows what he's talking about and people feel confident with him. but i do believe in barack obama. i do believe his message. i haven't lost faith in him. and i think that, you know -- it's not an easy thing to do. nobody knows what the hell they're getting into when they're running for president. you don't know what job you're getting into hosting a show...
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things, to work with special olympics with him, and gorbachev about his time in office and with bill clinton and with george bush, and to spend all of this time with george bush at camp david and to do horseshoe throwing and skeet and trap shooting and to sit in the oval office and to listen to his meetings -- >> amazing moments for a guy from -- unknown kid from austria. >> it's unbelievable, that ride. and the book also deals with the determination and the fanaticism and the competitiveness and always keeping the eye on the ball. and you know, the 15 arnold rules and all of those things that helped me get through and to get the way i am today. so that's what the book is about. >> whatever you've done in your life, when you've wanted something badly enough, you've tended to get there. you clearly would have liked to repair your marriage to as you said, the one and only love of your life, really. if maria's watching this and she might well be watching this, what would you say to her? >> i would just say sorry for what i've done. you know, i want to win her back and you know, i hope even thou
things, to work with special olympics with him, and gorbachev about his time in office and with bill clinton and with george bush, and to spend all of this time with george bush at camp david and to do horseshoe throwing and skeet and trap shooting and to sit in the oval office and to listen to his meetings -- >> amazing moments for a guy from -- unknown kid from austria. >> it's unbelievable, that ride. and the book also deals with the determination and the fanaticism and the...
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thank you, gentlemen, for winning my $100 off president bill clinton. and thank you on behalf of all of europe. god knows we needed a bit of cheering up in europe this year. you guys did that, it was a stunning sporting achievement. congratulations. and i suggest you all now go to bed and get some much needed sleep. >> we will. >> thanks, piers. enjoyed it. >>> coming up, only in america. what may have been the worst prediction in the history of sport. large metal object hitting the ground) things have been a little strange. (sfx: sound of piano smashing) roadrunner: meep meep. meep meep? (sfx: loud thud sound) what a strange place. geico®. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. there's the sign to the bullpen. here he comes. you wouldn't want your doctor doing your job, the pitch! whoa! so why are you doing his? only your doctor can determine if your persistent heartburn is actually something more serious like acid reflux disease. over time, stomach acid can damage the lining of your esophagus. for many, prescription
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thank you, gentlemen, for winning my $100 off president bill clinton. and thank you on behalf of all of europe. god knows we needed a bit of cheering up in europe this year. you guys did that, it was a stunning sporting achievement. congratulations. and i suggest you all now go to bed and get some much needed sleep. >> we will. >> thanks, piers. enjoyed it. >>> coming up, only in america. what may have been the worst prediction in the history of sport. ♪ forz(power!) andiamo! andiamo! (let's go! let's go!) avanti! avanti! (keep going! keep going!) hahaha...hahahaha! you know ronny, folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. and how happy are they jimmy? happier than christopher columbus with speedboats. that's happy! get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. after you jumped buship in bangkok,n. i thought i'd lost you. >>> surfing is my life now. but who's going to .... >>> tell the world that priceline has even faster, easier ways to save you money. . . on hotels, flights & cars? you s
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the 1996 debate between bob dole and bill clinton. quick, name a defining moment. but i do think there is an opportunity here for mitt romney. his challenge is not so much to make a case against president obama over the last four years. there's no question voters are ambivalent about the performance. he's got to make a case that he can make the next four years better. we have a poll out, national journal poll. are you better off? are you worse off? or about the same as four years ago. among the about the same folks, people who don't say they see any improvement over obama the president is still leading by over 20 points. that is what romney has to change. >> i want to share something "the new york times" says. the romney team has been included the debates are about moments and have equipped him with a dear riis of zingers he has memorized and been practicing on aides since august. we've got some here that we want to share. >> there you go again. i want you to know that also, i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit, for political pur
the 1996 debate between bob dole and bill clinton. quick, name a defining moment. but i do think there is an opportunity here for mitt romney. his challenge is not so much to make a case against president obama over the last four years. there's no question voters are ambivalent about the performance. he's got to make a case that he can make the next four years better. we have a poll out, national journal poll. are you better off? are you worse off? or about the same as four years ago. among the...
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those thing to rk with speal olympics with him, and gorbachev about his time in office and with bill clinton and with george bush, and to spend l of this time with george bush at camp david and to do horsese throwing and skeet and trap shooting and to sit in thes meetings -- >> amazing moments for a g from -- unknn kid from austa. >> it'unbelievable, that rid and the book also deals th the determation and the naticieness always keeping the eye othe and you know, the arnd les d ag that helped me get through and get the way i am today. so that's what the book is about. your tever you've done in life, when you've wanted someing badly enough, you've tended to get there. yoclearly would haveiked to pair your marriage to as you said, e e and only love of your life, really. if mia's watching th and she mighwell be watc t you know, i want to win her back anu know, i hope even though she talks out forgiveness, i hope that you really c foive. >> you tnk do you deserve to >> think everyone deserves to be forgiven and get a break. yes, i do. then it'up to me what i do with that. >> you've always been v
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just left his restaurant in clinton. suicide bombers killed 14 including a americans in afghanistan. e were soldiers serving nato-led international security assistance course. civilians and an afghan interpreter also died. was driving a motorcycle loaded with explosives and rammed it into the side of a military vehicle on patrol. accused ofman killing a new york school expected innt is court today. anthony taglianetti was arrested shenandoah county on friday. in a prince william courtroom for an hearing just moments ago. he is charged with killing keith outside his new york home last month. wifeuspect's estranged reportedly having an affair with him. not comment on the reports when she spoke with us. we will have more tonight at news.n abc 7 a new hearing date has been set shooting accused of at the family research council in downtown d.c. floyd corkins ii pleaded not guilty and was found competent to stand trial. he was expected in court today. on october 26. the remains in jail. prosecutors say they walked into the con
just left his restaurant in clinton. suicide bombers killed 14 including a americans in afghanistan. e were soldiers serving nato-led international security assistance course. civilians and an afghan interpreter also died. was driving a motorcycle loaded with explosives and rammed it into the side of a military vehicle on patrol. accused ofman killing a new york school expected innt is court today. anthony taglianetti was arrested shenandoah county on friday. in a prince william courtroom for...
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support has diminished since bill clinton was in august and was making the case for it. you contrast columbine when there was enormous white house focus and national conversation after those shootings to what happened here where there is the silence. democrats in particular have been intimidated on this issue by a misconception that there is an overwhelming majority against it. the country is closely divided. but the half of the country voting for democrats, they are still interested in gun control and there could be a different discussion than we're having. >> so i remember after the shooting many people had this conversation about, it's too early to talk about, you know, gun control, you're politicizing what has been a horrible tragedy. i'll play a, a, i think we have, it must have been a radio interview with colorado governor and he said do we need stricter laws, we should wait until we bury those who we have lost. do you think that's true? as a victim i think your voice would be the most powerful in that debate. >> right, of course. you know, we -- i really think it'
support has diminished since bill clinton was in august and was making the case for it. you contrast columbine when there was enormous white house focus and national conversation after those shootings to what happened here where there is the silence. democrats in particular have been intimidated on this issue by a misconception that there is an overwhelming majority against it. the country is closely divided. but the half of the country voting for democrats, they are still interested in gun...
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. >> jon: so do you guys talk to each other or -- i mean, for god's sake hillary clinton got the memo. >> what happened in benghazi was a terrorist attack. >> jon: so let's try again in a safer space. >> i heard hillary clinton say that it was an act of terrorism. is it? what do you say? >> well, we are still doing an investigation. there is no doubt that the kind of weapons that were used, the ongoing assault that it wasn't just a mob action. >> jon: and? and if it wasn't just a mob action but not an act of terrorism either, what does that leave? what, libyan st. patrick's day? what is going on? a quinceanera that got out of hand? now a cynic would argue he is unwilling to admit the embassy was hit by terrorists because it would make him look back. but maybe it is honest confusion, maybe it is honest confusion and it took a week to figure out what happened in libya. >> our sources tell us they knew within 24 hours this was a terror attack. >> jon: (bleep)! well, two things apparently have become clear, the attack on our embassy was planned and coordinated, the response to it, not so
. >> jon: so do you guys talk to each other or -- i mean, for god's sake hillary clinton got the memo. >> what happened in benghazi was a terrorist attack. >> jon: so let's try again in a safer space. >> i heard hillary clinton say that it was an act of terrorism. is it? what do you say? >> well, we are still doing an investigation. there is no doubt that the kind of weapons that were used, the ongoing assault that it wasn't just a mob action. >> jon: and?...
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maybe four years isn't enough per bill clinton. what they know is things have not gotten better for them personally. >> that is exactly right. >> that is exactly what wednesday night will be all about. nicely put. tomorrow on "starting point" we take a look at -- who are we talking to? len berman is going to talk to us. carrie ellis is going to celebrate the 25th anniversary of "the princess bride." "cnn newsroom" with carol costello starts right now. >> stories we're watching now in the "newsroom." presidential debapt barn burner, zinger fest, game changer. the heat is on. >>> secret keeper. serial cheater. no remorse, no regret. arnold schwarzenegger opens up about his secret affairs and that illegitimate child. >> i'm going to put this away. >> how can you put it away? you have a child? >> i know. that's just the way i operate. >> now he says he wants maria back. >>> break out the cloth diapers and gigantic safety pins. a diapers shortage is looming. a pampers alert this morning. a pampers alert this morning. "newsroom" starts n
maybe four years isn't enough per bill clinton. what they know is things have not gotten better for them personally. >> that is exactly right. >> that is exactly what wednesday night will be all about. nicely put. tomorrow on "starting point" we take a look at -- who are we talking to? len berman is going to talk to us. carrie ellis is going to celebrate the 25th anniversary of "the princess bride." "cnn newsroom" with carol costello starts right now....
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in that situation, president clinton did not allow the u.n. security council to bind our hands and bring humanitarian relief but president obama has been playing mother may i with the russians and with china on what we can do in syria. and anyone who's studied the u.n. anyone who's spent time there as i have and various ambassadorial posts knowing that russia won't let us go forward to take robust or strong action. >> let me interprurupt for a moment. i want to hear if you can tell us what would romney do differently than the president is doing right now. >> sure. first of all, it was almost a year ago when governor romney called for us to go in and try to organize the moderate opposition. it is true as general clark said that president obama is now approved it but it took him until late may. by that time, various radical forces had already gone in and made it much more complicated. early this year, governor romney called for arming the moderate opposition, working with the friends in the region. president obama at the time said, no. but in la
in that situation, president clinton did not allow the u.n. security council to bind our hands and bring humanitarian relief but president obama has been playing mother may i with the russians and with china on what we can do in syria. and anyone who's studied the u.n. anyone who's spent time there as i have and various ambassadorial posts knowing that russia won't let us go forward to take robust or strong action. >> let me interprurupt for a moment. i want to hear if you can tell us...
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the author of "here come the black helicopters" out next week, former clinton advisor dick morris. so he can't meet with benjamin newnewt gingrichnetanyahu, becao on "the view," meet with beyonce. >> they've found numerous instances of terrorist attacks in banghazi, including two bombings of our consulate in banghazi in the weeks and months before the terrorist attacks that killed our ambassador. so this, a, shows that the president is just not on -- not there. he's just not paying attention to, thito this. nor is hillary. these attacks should have prompted security, increased efforts to protect the ambassador. the ambassador himself was threatened with assassination. as the committee draws that out on the one hand in your fast and furious coming out with evidence more and more of the use of those guns, this administration is unraveling. it becomes very clear that nobody was there. >> sean: it's unraveling, but he doesn't take national security briefings both before and after this attack. four people are dead. the bigger issue is always the cover-up. now we're covering that they ha
the author of "here come the black helicopters" out next week, former clinton advisor dick morris. so he can't meet with benjamin newnewt gingrichnetanyahu, becao on "the view," meet with beyonce. >> they've found numerous instances of terrorist attacks in banghazi, including two bombings of our consulate in banghazi in the weeks and months before the terrorist attacks that killed our ambassador. so this, a, shows that the president is just not on -- not there. he's...
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secretary of state hillary clinton keeps in touch with her husband that way. homeland security secretary janet napolitano says she doesn't use e-mail at all. >> billionaire warren buffett doesn't like tech tools. neither do angelina jolie nor christopher walken. >> it's occurred to me, some of these people, i don't know for sure, if you have a personal secretary, maybe you don't need to have the actual device. you have somebody telling you what to do if in fact that's the case, right? if i'm rich and powerful, and they say, john, you have to be here or there. >> they can tell you where you need to go. >> you have your own personal human 3-g or whatever. >>> we're getting a look at incorrectly cute pictures from a zoo in china. take a look. one of the residents was invited to sit at a table with zoogoers to enjoy a special treat. >> to mark a special in china, later a much smaller version of the cake. he's saying touchdown, it's good! >>> the matchup between a deer and a speeding skateboarder. >> these riders were trying anything. seemingly out of nowhere, ther
secretary of state hillary clinton keeps in touch with her husband that way. homeland security secretary janet napolitano says she doesn't use e-mail at all. >> billionaire warren buffett doesn't like tech tools. neither do angelina jolie nor christopher walken. >> it's occurred to me, some of these people, i don't know for sure, if you have a personal secretary, maybe you don't need to have the actual device. you have somebody telling you what to do if in fact that's the case,...
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the moderate wing, the moderate clinton-johnson -- i want to make one point, despite senator mccain's joke about governors. [laughter] i noticed arnold said something about body mass in his opening speech. the four governors here, and i do not mean to disparage what is happening in washington, we as governors, and i hope the schwarzenegger institute does not abandon states and local government and county commissions. we have to work together with the legislature. we have to balance the budget or we go to jail. maybe that is how some got there. so by partisanship -- bipartisanship athens. i worked with arnold when we were governors on clean energy. on climate change. we were ahead. immigration -- with charlie on health care. by the way, john and i came to the congress, said the same time. we worked on navajo issues and creating a federal boxing commission and native american issues with tom daschle. i think this is a good issue -- panel. the states, there are laboratories ofbi partisanship -- bi partisanship that the government can learn from. maybe this institute can figure that out.
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. >> i understand the broader point that senator clinton has been trying to make over the last several weeks. >> reporter: tonight's format is from 2008. moderator jim lehrer, 90 minutes, no breaks. with possible fireworks. >> i think you'll see both of them be more aggressive than either of their campaigns have predicted because the stakes are pretty high. >> reporter: the content could get even tighter, after tonight's clash. but most here in denver agree, this race could be decided by this debate. live at the university of denver, steve handelsman, news4. >>> and of course, nbc news will bring you live coverage of all three presidential debates. tonight's coverage starts at 9:00 right here on nbc 4. >>> of course, tonight's presidential debate is the talk all over town. joining us with more is molette green. great to have you back again. >> great to be here once again. >> your listeners are rumbling. we talked p the rumble in the rockies. they have been weighing in. we're now less than five hours away. what are you hearing? >> you know what, our listeners are all geared up for this
. >> i understand the broader point that senator clinton has been trying to make over the last several weeks. >> reporter: tonight's format is from 2008. moderator jim lehrer, 90 minutes, no breaks. with possible fireworks. >> i think you'll see both of them be more aggressive than either of their campaigns have predicted because the stakes are pretty high. >> reporter: the content could get even tighter, after tonight's clash. but most here in denver agree, this race...
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. >> interesting about him at the recent clinton global initiative there were some people he had one of his own kind of groups like that, that he's focusing on in california with young people coming to talk about something like a schwarzenegger initiative, looking to his future. >> he's starting a schwarzenegger institute at the university of southern california. you know, i wish i could have gotten everything into our stare but we filmed it. they are going to talk about local governments starts initiatives since the federal government is ingrid lock. >> what's arnold's future and maria's future. they have independent courses clearly now. >> arnold signed up to do five movies. i think that they are going to wait and see if people go and see them to see if he can restart his movie career. he has a lot of causes. he does after school programs, things like that. >> she has a lot of media offers if she wants to resume that job. >> she can write a book if she wanted to. >> yes. thank you very much. >>> and the ryder cup coming up. >> sunday's final day might have been the most thrilling a
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it goes back to bill clinton. >> there was a story out yesterday that that claim is fiction because you don't count the loophole closing. >> what loophole? >> he talked about mortgage interest. really quickly -- >> mortgage interest? >> he has never talked about mortgage interest. >> the hilarity that there is one -- >> we have one loophole. >> mike, finish, but then i want to get on to something else. >> the president says he wants to lower tax cuts to big corporations. how to pay for it? loopholes. what loopholes? nothing. we'll tell you after the election. you're attacking romney for the same thing. >> i want to talk about the gas prices. one thing that was striking, speaker gingrich, is what some were arguing about the actual numbers. jack welch made a lot of headlines with a tweet that said, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so they change the numbers without any substantiation. he was on "hardball" with chris matthews and this is how he explained it. >> i've reviewed 14 businesses this week. from restaurants to widgets. i have seen everyb
it goes back to bill clinton. >> there was a story out yesterday that that claim is fiction because you don't count the loophole closing. >> what loophole? >> he talked about mortgage interest. really quickly -- >> mortgage interest? >> he has never talked about mortgage interest. >> the hilarity that there is one -- >> we have one loophole. >> mike, finish, but then i want to get on to something else. >> the president says he wants to lower...
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she moderated the debate between bush, clinton, perot. here's her analysis of what's important. >> i'm going to upset some people now, but debates are more about style than substance. the advantage of being a moderator is that people told me what they thought about the debate after the debate. and the things they told me were things like why did george bush look at his watch? where did he have to go? why was he anxious to get out of there? and people tell me now that they want to see how they do. they don't want to hear. i think they've heard a lot about the economy. and they're not interested in the minutia. >> governor, let me get your take on style versus substance. and can you really coach style? i mean, maybe you can say don't look at your watch, but aren't these guys who they are by now? >> i think a lot of it comes down to whether or not the candidates look like they're comfortable in their own skin. i think the president certainly does. and it's been perhaps more difficult for governor romney because he's had to change positions a
she moderated the debate between bush, clinton, perot. here's her analysis of what's important. >> i'm going to upset some people now, but debates are more about style than substance. the advantage of being a moderator is that people told me what they thought about the debate after the debate. and the things they told me were things like why did george bush look at his watch? where did he have to go? why was he anxious to get out of there? and people tell me now that they want to see how...
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according to the wall street journal the two persons mentioned are white house chief of staff clinton blue anderson bowls. glen hubbard from the columbia schools. >> airlines making changes hair. over the past five years the airline cut smaller fees and flights shorter than 500 miles. that's kierd to go a new study by the office of inspector general of the department of transportation. another money saving strategy for the airlines and you are definitely familiar with this one. packing more passengers into bigger planes. is there any consolation for fliers out there? according to the study your flight has a greater chance of being on time and not being kept. >> that's good news. >> homeowner's insurance. you have new information for us. >> we are more satisfied than ever when it comes to homeowner's insurance. they like to bundle their auto and homeowner's policies. according to a jd power it was 785 out of 1,000 topping the list a michiganing ca mutual with 859, followed by aaa in southern california. american family and shelter. now the big insurers like travelers state farm and all
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it is this, you know, the obama campaign, that their belief in this has been since the sort of bill clinton explanation of digging out of this hole, has been that ultimately the last sliver of swing voters is going to say okay, let's not change horses in mid stream. they're making a classic incumbent case of saying it's not great, but, hey, do you want to start over? and i go back, i remember watching a couple of focus groups, there was one out in nevada with working women and one woman said i'm not happy with obama. i'm not happy with the economy. but god, i don't want to have to start over. there's this perception. so that to me is a tricky thing for romney. right romney has got to sort of make the case that we're not going to rip everything out by the roots. which is of course what some in this space do want to have happen. but i'm going to create a better recovery. a faster recovery. so i think that's what the 8% means, right? it means he's got to be more nuanced in that argument. where the president can sit there and make the same case -- do you really want to start over? >> there's an
it is this, you know, the obama campaign, that their belief in this has been since the sort of bill clinton explanation of digging out of this hole, has been that ultimately the last sliver of swing voters is going to say okay, let's not change horses in mid stream. they're making a classic incumbent case of saying it's not great, but, hey, do you want to start over? and i go back, i remember watching a couple of focus groups, there was one out in nevada with working women and one woman said...